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PART IV: PROCEEDINGS OF THE INTERNATIONAL CONFERENCE OF SA ASTROLOGERS-2008, GURGAON, INDIA: 2008



#1.Scorpio Asdt Child:Brain Dysfunction:

To continue with the Conf Proceedings, in the latter half of the pre-lunch session of the second day, there was brought up a question by Col B K Kailash, regarding a rather enigmatic case of a certain child - whose brain had stopped functioning:

Birth Details: Sept 11th, 1991, 11:35AM, Delhi[77ºE13´, 28ºN39´].

He sought the viewpoint of the Professor, as to what sort of remedial measures are to be suggested at this stage and as to how, one is to understand this calamity, from the SA point of view.”Calamity” because, as the Colonel explained, the child had become a mere vegetable.

The child’s chart had a Scorpio Asdt with the MEP at 5º 16´. The FBs Sa, Ju, Me and the Su were the strong FBs. Among the FMs, Ra and Ma were strong, while Ve was weak, because of a very weak dispositor. Notably, Ke was badly placed in the VIIIH. The Mo was the weakest planet, in extreme infancy in the malefic XIIH. While in the D-9 div chart, no planet was debilitated, in the D-6 div chart, pertaining to health matters, the Mo was again badly placed in the VIH and afflicted by Ra and Ke. Significantly as the Su and Ma signify the first house and the head in the SA, both these planets are afflicted by Ra and Ke in the D-6 div chart [Shashtamsa].

When I had asked the Professor, out of a sense of shock, as to whether, the “excellent strength” of the Su was not suspect, because of the “grazing affliction”, from the malefic Ra, which fell just outside the critical orb of 1degree; the Professor allayed my fears and said, “The difficulty in this case has arisen solely from the weakness of the Mo and the planet Ve only and that indeed the Su was strong, in spite of the so-called “grazing affliction”.

When Col Kailash asked for the correct remedial measures, the Professor said that the strengthening of the weak FB, the Moon as well as the strengthening the weak FM Ve, would lead to an improvement in the health condition of the child.

Here was then a new lesson for all SA astrologers, for the Prof, in this rather exceptional case, had suggested the strengthening of a FM[in fact the MMP], thereby “going against” the general principles of the remedial measures, according to which, one never strengthens a FM.

The present case study thus affords us an exceptional circumstance, in which, the general principles of the SA remedial measures are superseded, by the remedy of strengthening the MMP, as suggested by the Prof. [SA Sutra-1-pertaining to the very uncommon and therefore exceptional remedial measure of strengthening the MMP]

In addition, the Prof had also suggested that remedial measures for Ke were mandatory, as Ke, being in the VIIIH of death and death like obstructions, was capable of doing much havoc.

The calamity befell the child during the Ra-Ke sub-period [30 Jun ’05 till 18 Jul ‘06] and at the present time, the equally malefic Ra-Ve sub-period was still running[18 Jul ’06 till 18 Jul ‘09].

The Prof clarifying the cause of the calamity, said: “Even though many strong planets may be present in a chart, during malefic sub-periods, if a prolonged Tr affliction were to occur , then misfortunes may well become our lot in life” [SA Sutra-2].The above clarification was given by the Prof, when, after the Conf[still shocked by the example], I had enquired, whether the “the misfortune triggering potential” of a malefic sub-period can in some cases prove to be so disastrous- in spite of the strong planets in the chart?

On the whole, this example gave us all a humbling experience, for it showed that “grace of God” cannot be taken for granted, from a judgment of the strong FBs in any chart and that preventive remedial measures can give us good protection, against all unforeseen Tr afflictions, that may possibly occur in the future - even in charts with many strong planets.

#2.Prasna Chart for a Sick Patient[DBG]:

As the Conf was proceeding, there was a sudden phone call for the Prof, from an old client, DBG. His son was calling to find out whether his father would be out of the woods soon[he had been grievously sick, recently].

At that very moment the Prof made a Prasna chart, which turned out to be a Gemini Asdt, with the MEP at 3º 42´.[24 Feb 2008, 1:02PM, Gurgaon] No planet was strong in this Prasna chart, and the running dasa-bhukti was Mo-Me. The Mo was placed in the IVH and Me was badly placed in the VIIIH. Ra was in the IXH and exactly afflicting the Asdt MEP from its position therein at 3º 44´, as also the XIH lord Ma, which was at 3º 25´, that is, very close to the Asdt MEP.

The Prof mentioned that this was a case, in which the individual DBG had been performing the remedial measures for some time now. It was also mentioned that DBG was suffering from a serious health setback since Feb 11th, ’08. In spite of the exact Nodal affliction to the IIIH and the IXH in the Prasna chart and in spite of the exact affliction from Ra to the Asdt MEP, the Prof confidently said that: “The afflictions are coming to an end and consequently, there are good chances of survival.”

I was rather amazed at the prognosis of the Professor, as the sub-period lord was in the malefic VIIIH of death & obstructions and there was also an exact affliction to the Asdt MEP and the XIH lord, Ma from the malefic Ra. When he was asked, how he inferred thus, from the Prasna chart - in spite of these “discouraging malefic trends”; the Prof explained immediately, that the case was obviously “serious enough” [ as evidenced by the placement of the sub-period lord in the VIIIH of death], yet, as DBG was performing the remedial measures, & as the affliction from Ra to the Asdt & the XIH lord Ma, was going to clear soon in a matter of some ten days, he knew that the prognosis for recovery was positive, even though doctors were not as optimistic as he was [SA Prediction and Insight].

This was then, another clear case, which brought home to us, the predictive power of the SA, especially in a situation, in which the good news of the prediction and prognosis would have brought peace and relief to the kith and kin of the grievously sick patient DBR.

#3.Individual in Police Custody and in a Litigation:

In the afternoon session of Feb 24th, the second day of the Conf, one saw the first question coming from Mr Naval Kishore, who furnished the foll birth details:

[8 March, 1967, 02:30 Hrs, [77ºE13´, 28ºN37´]]

It was explained by Mr Kishore that the chart had a Sagittarius Asdt with the MEP at 9º 45´, and with the Asdt lord Ju, placed weakly in the VIIIH. The individual was also running the Ju- Su dasa-bhukti [between Dec 2007 and Sept 2008]. Among the FBs Ma and Ve were strong, while among the FMs, only Ra and Ke were strong. The history of the case was that the individual has not had a job for the last two years and was also plagued by litigation and police custody. Mr Naval Kishore’s question was this: As he was doing the remedies of the SA, what will be the time frame, within which, he will have professional settlement again and also are there any additional remedies, that we can recommend to him, while the impasse is still continuing?

The Prof cited the almost exact affliction to Mer from Ke as the real cause of this misfortune. He further pointed out to Mr Kishore that the individual in question may wear an Emerald stone in an auspicious Muhurta and also a Ruby stone in an auspicious Muhurta-so that his profession[Mer] will be fortified and also he may not suffer on account of harassment by authorities[Su]. Attention was also drawn to the fact that during the last year, as Ju, the Asdt lord was transiting the XIIH of behind the scenes, it was not a favorable period for him.

Sri Rajeshji pointed out that between Oct 2005 and Jan 2006, as Tr Sa was in the malefic VIIIH, it had become stationary and also got afflicted exactly by the MMP, the Mo from the IIH, where it was placed. And that this might have precipitated/ triggered the unfortunate event of police custody, etc.

#4. Case of Husband & Wife: Separated, but not Divorced:

Birth Details [Husband]: 18 May 1973; 12:05PM; Delhi

Birth Details[Wife]: 23 May 1979;7:05AM; Gurgaon[77ºE04´,28ºN39´]

This case also was brought up by Mr Suresh Virmani. He mentioned that the marriage had taken place on 20 Jan 2004, and that the couple also had a son and then have separated, because of inability of living peacefully together. It was also mentioned by Mr Virmani that the husband was violent-given to beating his wife, but that there has been no divorce as yet.

Commenting on the chart of the husband, the Prof said that the IIIH lord Ve and significator of wife and marital life was under the exact affliction of the Most Malefic Planet[MMP], the Mo. He said, patience is called for and added what seemed to be another very important SA Sutra:

“The most difficult job for an astrologer is the assessment of compatibility.” [SA Sutra-3]

The Prof shared an important experience of his: when people give him horoscopes and ask him to give his verdict-whether the charts are compatible or not, he has invariably told them to be patient in this particular matter. He went on to illustrate with an example-that sometimes even some thousand charts may have to be seen, before you can find the right match. Adding that though generally Virgo Asdts prove to be more difficult than the other Asdts, recently he had passed a Virgo Asdt chart, as many planets were strong. The Vedic astrology[VA] approach to compatibility, through the assignment of various points, was in the Prof’s opinion, too crude and completely off the mark.

Then the Professor mentioned another SA sutra, which we may have to use often in the astrological work of compatibility of charts:

“The influence of Rahu or Rahu like planets on weak planets gives “complex relationships” – meaning that, without a decisive divorce coming to pass; other relationships will emerge into existence. In such cases “no decisive resolutions” of the problem, may appear in sight, even in the course of one full decade.” [SA Sutra-4]

Now, that he had touched on “Dharma” in marital relationship, he went on to spell out another important SA sutra, arising from the ethical nature of individuals:

“The weakness [and/or affliction] of the spiritual planets and houses: The Su, Ju and the IXH[or IVH] creates an unspiritual approach to life, involving the violation of humanitarian and ethical norms.” [SA Sutra-5]

#5. Affliction from the VIH lord to Ve and VIIH lord:

In the case of another individual, whose birth details are furnished below:

[26 Aug 1947 21:05Hrs, Ferozpur [74E38, 30N55]],

The Prof gave the shocking news that divorce had taken in this case, no less than 16 yrs! And that after a separation of four yrs, the man had developed a relationship with another person, had also gone to prison, and was already beating his would-be wife. It was pointed out in this case of a Pisces Asdt chart, [MEP at 25degs 59mts]that there was the malefic influence of the VIH lord, the Su, and that too in the VIH on Ve, the significator of wife and marriage and on the VIIH lord, Me as well-as the main factor responsible for marital break-up and disharmony.[SA Sutra-6]

It was also mentioned by the Prof that the same malefic influence of the VIH lord, on the VIIH lord and/or the VIIH, would also bring about a breakup in business partnerships.[SA Sutra 7]

Referring in passing to the rather well-known chart of the Bollywood film star, he pointed out that in his birth chart, as the XIH lord, pointing to his friends was placed in the VIH of controversies and litigations, most of his friends get into disputes. This may also be taken to be another SA Sutra, in which the XIH lord is placed in the malefic VIH. [SA Sutra-8]

Summing up with respect to the VIH matters and taking into account, the argumentative and litigious nature of the VIH, the Prof gave another SA remedy, now in the form of a “spiritual sadhana, namely that of self-restraint”:

“People with VIH difficulties and afflictions must follow the golden rule of silence”[ SA Sutra-9]

#6.A Case Study involving Sudden Illness: Thalassaemia:

Mr Gaurav Dhameja supplied the birth details of an infant, saying that he was generally quite healthy, but suddenly, the doctors have pronounced him to have Thalassaemia. This was an Aries Asdt chart, with the MEP at 29º 40´.[9 Jan 2007; 2:23PM; [72ºE50´, 18ºN58]]It was explained by the Prof that the extreme weakness of Ma, and the close affliction to the Su and the VIH lord, Me from the FM Ke was responsible for the health condition. He added that with the remedial measures, damage will certainly be less and that the infant’s people may thereafter decide on the best course of action.

There was also a note of caution sounded by the Prof, so that we may have the humility to see things clearly, without succumbing to greed:

“Some people want “magical remedies”, but in the SA, there are no “magical remedies”” [SA Sutra-10].

#7. Case Study-A Virgo Asdt Chart:

[Birth Details: 10 Mar 1980; 20:10Hrs; Vadodra, Gujarat]

This was a Virgo Asdt chart with the MEP at 17degs 08 mts. Ma was badly placed in the malefic XIIH and the affliction to the weak Ma, from the Nodes Ra and Ke, is, significantly also passed on to the badly-placed Ve, whose dispositor is the weak and afflicted Ma. Prof Choudhry remarked that in such cases, preventive remedial measures, life would become more favourable. It was also a case of marital discord.

# 8. Case Study: “Excessive Rahuvian Passion”:

Birth Details: [2 Sept, 1965; 9:07AM, Faridabad[77E17, 28N22]

Through this Virgo Asdt chart [which had a MEP at 26degs 32mts], the Professor drew our attention to an unusual, “heterodox pattern of marriage”, which was fuelled by the malefic forces of the MMP, Ma & Ra[which was itself afflicted by the MMP Ma].

The lady in question, we were told, had developed a relationship with a chemist[ martian profession], who was already married. She waited for many years and eventually married the chemist, after the death of his first wife. The Prof pointed out that she had refused to perform the remedies [in spite of a Jupiter which was about 90% strong and a Sun which was 100% strong] and proceeded to point out the astrological cause of this behavior. What is given below was either actually said by the Prof, or was implied, since he knew that SA astrologers, would be quick to see, what he was trying to get at.

The MMP, Ma had thrown the 8th aspect on Ra, placed strongly in the IXH of virtue and Dharma. “Further as Ra was aspecting the Asdt, this excessively passionate Ra, had given the lady, that well-known Rahuvian passion to satisfy her desires and urges, but without any regard to higher ethical principles” [ Rather well-known SA Sutra-11]. Secondly the impact of the FB, deb Ve on the Asdt MEP, though seemingly beneficial, carried the heterodox and malefic martian influence on to the Asdt. The Prof also mentioned that all three women in the family were doctors. The mother was a widow and the aunt was also unmarried. There can be a scope of birth time rectification but the individual was non cooperative for that with the family.

#9 A Case of Skin Cancer:

This case was brought up by Dr Batra, the only Doctor-astrologer at the conference. The birth details are given below:

[7 Apr 1942; 10:30AM; Gurgaon.]

This was A Gemini Asdt chart with the MEP at 7deg21mts.There were no obvious afflictions visible in the chart, except that Me, which rules the skin and signifies the IIH, IIIH and the VIH in the SA was debilitated and combust in the Rasi chart and badly placed in the VIIIH in the D-6 div chart. Worse still, the FBs Sa, Ju and Ma were all placed in the malefic XIIH. Ve was placed in the IXH, but had also become weak, because of a weak dispositor. Dr Batra had made a mention of the fact that the patient was moving steadily downhill.

Professor Choudhry mentioned that the weak planets make the person vulnerable to critical illness due to unfavorable prolonged transit influence. Apparently, as Dr Batra was guiding the patient, the patient was also, we may surmise, under divine protection, through the remedial measures of the SA.

#10 An Unusual Aquarius Asdt Chart:

Col B K Kailash brought up a unusual Aquarius Asdt chart with the MEP at 1deg 21mts:

Birth Details: 22 Nov 1958; 11:58AM; Dharbhanga, Bihar[85E52, 26N09]

The life-story of this individual went something like this, as narrated by Col Kailash: He was in the service of the Merchant Navy. Then his wife was diagnosed to have Cancer of the breast. He started reading all the existing literature on breast Cancer, but the wife passed away in 2005[in the Mo-Ra sub-period]. When in the wake of the first misfortune, a second misfortune struck him, in the form of his daughter charging him for rape in a court of law, under the instigation of close relatives; the individual sought astrological guidance, but was firm in his resolution not to perform the remedial measures! Col Kailash sought the guidance of Professor Choudhry.

The Prof pointed out that Ju was placed in a house which was afflicted by a highly malefic Ra, placed in the VIIIH. The same highly malefic Ra, from the Most Malefic House, also afflicted the Asdt MEP. The Asdt lord was also under the close affliction of both Me, the MMP, as well as Ke, another FM.

Ra afflicts the IXH, the IH the VH and the IIIH as well, while Ke closely afflicts the three Hs, the IIIH, the VIIH, the XIH and the IXH, as well. The MMP Mercury is closely afflicting the MEPs of the eleventh and fifth houses. The MMP, Me was itself exactly afflicted by Ke, thereby showing that longevity of life and married life is shortened. There were in all 8 afflictions in this chart, the Prof pointed out.

The influence of a highly malefic Ra on the Asdt MEP and the influence of a “Ra-like lord”, the MMP, namely Me on the Asdt lord Sa, had given him the “Rahuvian passion” to probe into the death of his wife , through his extensive reading of books and journals. It also gave him the arrogant attitude of refusing to perform the remedial measures.[SA Sutra-12] This was an answer, given by the Prof to Col Kailash’s question, as to the source of his voracious reading as also the source of his refusal to do the remedial measures ?

Talking of such voracious reading, seen in this chart, the Prof in passing, turned to some personal reminiscences. When he was in Govt service, as and when he was obliged to go to the law courts, he had learnt the legalities of all cases himself and had even advised the lawyers, how to go about the cases. However, while he had shown this keen interest in legal questions, whenever they came his way; he had not had any similar opportunity and occasion to probe into the origin of diseases or treatments of diseases, as administered by doctors. This was just in the nature of some reminiscences, that’s all.

#11 Chart of An Anti-Social Element:

This was the last chart discussed in the afternoon session of Feb 24th. It was presented by the SA astrologer from France [Paris], Mr Jo Cohen:

Birth Details: 13 Feb 1977; 20:10 Hrs; TZ=-1:00 CET; [2ºE20´, 48ºN52´]

It was a Leo Asdt chart with the MEP at 24º28´. Mr Jo Cohen explained the underlying “life –story” very clearly. He said that the man’s girl friend had approached him, for help, to see if he could be helped in any way.

Natal weak Su is afflicted closely by a “highly malefic” Ra from the IIIH.”Highly malefic”, because the dispositor of Ra is badly placed in the VIIIH of death or sufferings, centered around death. Natal Mo, the MMP is also closely afflicted by the FM Ke. Mr Jo Cohen observed that the tragedy occurred in the 3rd Mo sub-period, that is, during the Mo-Mo sub-period[Jan 2007 to Nov 2007]. “In Jan 2007, when Ra and Ke had become stationary in Aquarius and Leo around, 23º, his behavior started becoming strange-he began to drink a lot. On 8 Mar 2007, a TSE occurred. He went drunk from a coffee shop. He saw a police car, panicked at this sight, then suddenly entered into a car, which had been parked thereabouts. Unfortunately, there was an old man seated in the car, who now started screaming, because of the new entrant he saw[who seemed to be a stranger, in some suspicious circumstances]. The intruder, in order to protect himself, strangled the old man to death. He is now in prison.”[Mr Jo Cohen’s words, almost verbatim] .

Mr Cohen then gave his prediction, that this individual will be in prison for ten yrs.

He also added, later when I was asking him some other details that he was separated from his mother in childhood and that he was brought up by his maternal grandparents. I remarked that in the SA, Ke signified maternal grandparents and that Ke’s aspect on the Mo, tallied well with the facts of his life.

Professor Choudhry pointed out that: “Whenever there are planets in the VIH, there is scope created for disputes.[SA Sutra-13]. And that in this case, there are two FBs, Ma and Me placed in the malefic VIH.

The Prof also added that: “Whenever Ra afflicts the weak Su, Governmental action against the individual may be expected” [SA Sutra-14].

As he was in the context of “the weak and afflicted Su” the Professor, also gave us another very potent sutra, of particular relevance to women:

“As in the case of women, the Su rules, father, husband, son, state or Govt; the affliction to the Su in a woman’s chart is always highly problematic” [SA Sutra-15].

#12 SA Sutras on the Spiritual Life:

Towards the conclusion of the Conf, the Prof dwelt upon the importance of cultivating a spiritual life and developing a spiritual outlook on life. He said: “When you are spiritually developed, you do not want anything.” He quoted from the Ramayana, saying that when the Lord asked Manu and Satarupa [First man and woman, born out of Brahma]: “What do you want?”, they said that they did not want anything, because they were very contented. When they were pressed by the Lord further, then they acquiesced to the wishes of the Lord and said, they would like to have a son like Himself! Prof explained that this was the cause of the birth of Lord Rama.

He emphasized that spiritual advancement ought to result in contentment, meaning that otherwise, it is no advancement at all. “To reach this and attain to this, there is a step by step procedure and the first step in these series of steps, is to have trust in God. The second step, was Patience and that this virtue was very important. The third step is to be helpful to people, whenever one gets an opportunity to render that help. The fourth was being in Satsang [company] with good and pious people. The fifth was the cultivation of contentment, through the following of the above steps and when an opportunity has been presented by God, then to develop that contentment further.”

Professor Choudhry, having described the steps, added something very important, the natural connection between astrology and the spiritual goals of life:

“The whole purpose of Astrology was only to gain mental peace[contentment] and make the spiritual path one is treading, smoother and easier. While the remedial measures pertaining to the spiritual houses and spiritual planets will help you to secure greater divine grace in life.” [SA Sutra-16]

The importance of practicing the giving up of anger was stressed, as also the renunciation of attachments to worldly things, for attachments implied, fear and desire creeping in, and creating bondage[attachment] in this process. [SA Sutra-17]

For enhancing divine grace in the spiritual spheres of life, the Professor, finally mentioned those planetary energies which would have to be strengthened, for each of the twelve Asdts:

Aries: Ju and Su,
Taurus: Su,
Gemini: Ju, Su and Sa,
Cancer: Su,
Leo: Ju, Ma and Su,
Virgo: Ju,
Libra: Ju and Su,
Scorpio: Ju, Su, Mo,
Sagittarius: Ju, Su,
Capricorn: Me,
Aquarius: Ju, Su, Ve,
Pisces: Ju
[SA Sutra-18]

Coming to the remedial measures concerning afflictions, he stressed on preventive remedies again:

“Propitiatory charities [remedial measures] are good, even if there are no afflictions in the chart.” [SA Sutra-19]

Concerning the spiritual responsibility of astrologers, the Professor said: “Astrologers have the responsibility of being also spiritual guides and that real happiness in life comes only through contentment.” [SA Sutra-20]

In his summing up, Professor drew our Attention to an important binding principle of unity, that is characteristic of the SA: “Here, all of us have the same views, since all of us practice the same system of astrology, namely the SA*. Here we only discuss, so that we may all be better guides for those who seek our help.” [SA Sutra-21]

*Implying, there are not many alternative systems of astrology at this conference, which can possibly lead to conflict, debate and discord.

At the end of this last session of the conf, Sri Jhuraneyji raised a question: Should one use Muhurta also for beginning meditations, which may be an important part of one’s spiritual life?

The answer given by the Prof: “Yes, this can always be done”. [SA Sutra-22]

Sri Jhuraneyji’s question brought the Professor to some recollection about his own spiritual life, which he then reminisced, for our benefit:

“There is a high degree of contentment, which has been a blessing for me and because of this, I say that my Guru is the Ramayana. I follow its teachings. Many years ago, I discovered and came upon these teachings myself, through my own enquiry. Significantly, my entry into Hindu astrology was also only through the spiritual path.” [Origins of the SA]

This beloved Professor also shared something from his personal life, much to our satisfaction: That when he was under the inspiration of “the Muse of Hindu astrology” [this can alas, only be Lord Ganesha, the Deity corresponding to his Hamsa Yoga Jupiter], he used to work uninterruptedly from 8AM to 8PM on weekends and some two hrs during week days, when he was professionally busy. And that gradually he discovered all the errors in Vedic astrology [VA].Further, that starting with 1991, the development of the SA, as an astrological system and teaching has been becoming better and better.

The Professor summed up with the words: “The value of this divine knowledge of astrology can never be assessed by the consultation charges that are given to an astrologer. Only a token fee is charged. This is because, astrology is also a profession, like other professions. After all, astrologers must also be able to keep their bodies and souls together [survive]. In fact, in my own case, 95% of my services are free, while only 5% of my services, are charged.” [ The SA Sutra on Professional Ethics].

The session drew to a close, with these benedictory utterances by the Prof. There was also naturally, the distribution of “Certificates of Participation in the SA Intl Conf, 2008”, by Professor Choudhry and a group photo too, to commemorate the auspicious gathering on the occasion of the Conference.

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